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Die Wrter Seriositt 8211 Transparenz sind diese Herren wahrlich nicht bekannt. Nachdem ich eine Spam-Mail gefunden habe, ist ein Spam-Mail (mir) Etwas nher angeschaut Es gibt noch nicht, dass es mich noch nicht besttigt, also das ich erst einmal bei einem Verdacht bin. (Neustes Update immer direkt hinter dem Beitrag) Wie immer der erste Weg zu einem Impressum: Adresse: GetMyAds 24 Clever Digital Marketing Ltd. Hamdijk 183 4826 ND Breda Niederlande Weder gibt es die Firma noch die Hausnummer unter dieser angegebenen Adresse. Stattdessen Es ist hier um die Hausnummer 86-88 und um Unterknfte der Cryff Stiftung. Das Indiz liegt auch nahe, das diese Webseite zur Hauptseite gehrt. Auch weiter zur Hauptseite von GetMyAds. Denn beide Webseiten wurden beim gleichen Registriert und ber Panama verschleiert. Hier gibt es die Impressumsadresse: Linaro Holdings Limited, Trident Chambers, Postfach 1388, Victoria, Mahe, Seychellen, Firmennummer 172029 infogetmyads Auch eine Briefkastenadresse ala Schranz und Sander. Zur Firma Nr. Werde ich noch Recherchen anstellen. Und ich schaue mir die Webseite einmal etwas genauer an. Es vergoldet auch Philippinisches Recht. Sehr interessant und die ganze Sache wird nicht seriser. Auch weiter ins innere der Hlle und war finde ich dort Nun sehen dich selbst Zum Beispiel die FAQ. 75 Netzwerke wogtben wird aber die Chance das ich mal meine Werbung zu Gesicht bekomme ist gleich null. Sehr interessant und auslegbar dahingehend, das der Kunde nicht nachvollziehen kann wo seine gekauften Token zum Einsatz kommen. Ja so sieht abzockende Transparenz aus. Auch weiter zu den Kontodaten des Betreibers: Die Payific Ltd. ist bekannt als Zahlungsanbieter frfort Casinoprogramme und Binre-Optionen-Scam-Programm. Bei der Adresse des Kontoinhabers handelt es sich um eine Adresse, an der zahl Briefkastenfirmen residieren. Interessant wird es bei der Bankverbindung. Hier gibt es sich um eine deutsche Bankverbindung. Demnach gegen alle Einnahmen die per Bankberweisung gettigt werden diese Bank. Und damit unterliegen diese Einnahmen der deutschen Steuergesetzgebung. Und diese Nachkommen sind hier Einkommen hier zu versteuern. Vorsorglich ein Anfang verdachtes, habe ich diese Informationen an das zustndige Finanzamt nach Mnchen versendet mit der Bitte meine Informationen zu prfen. Bei der unteren Leiste ist es sich glatt um eine Lge. Firmen ist dieser Betreiber nicht bekannt und es liegen auch keine vertraglichen Vereinbarungen vor. Bitte beachten Sie das hier die Aussage 8222wir werben auf8220 gemacht wurde und nicht 8222wir arbeiten mit folgenden Firmen zusammen8220. Auch wenn der Eindruck erweckt wird, das ein SSL-Zertifikat zum Einsatz kommt, also ist dies gelogen. Es kommt kein SSL-Zertifikat zum Einsatz. Na, diese knauserige Vorgehensweise ist doch allgemein bekannt und liefert ein weiteres Indiz. Wenn Sie bei GMA starten, erhalten Sie Ihren Werbelink und den Link zu Ihrer Landingpage. Sie knnen aber auch die Landingpage in Form einer Zip-Datei herunter Laden und auf Ihrem eigenen Server installieren. Soso, na dann schaue ich mir die Landingpage im Zip Ordner mal etwas genauer an und siehe da Wir landen wieder beim Impressum in den Niederlanden. Auch das alles rechtliche Dokumente, die eine Berschrift in deutscher Sprache haben. 60 der Partner haben gar keine bis schlechte Kenntnisse der die Englische Sprache. Fazit: wie immer werden alle Betreiberdaten verschleiert. Werbungen mit Drittlogos und angeblichen SSL Zertifikaten sind erlogen. Impressumsangaben teilweise falsch und erlogen. In Richtung Werbefirma in Spanien geht hier der Hinweis die wohl den Werbefilm erstellt haben soll. Hier recherchiere ich aber noch. Sie sind mit einer Glaskugel erahnen. Es wird dir auch eine Gegenleistung von deinem aber nicht beweiskrftig nachvollziehen knnen, wo und wann diese platziert wurde, sprich Sie haben nichts in der Hand an der Sie Ihre Gegenleistung erkennen knnen. Meine Empfehlung: Lassen Sie die Finger von dieser unsisen nicht transparenten Kaschemme und investieren Sie Ihr Geld lieber in Adpacks anderer seriser Portale bei denen Sie nachvollziehen knnen, wo Ihre Werbung platziert wurde. Sollten Sie aber zu jenen Beratungsresistenten Affiliate gehren, die zuviel Geld haben und es lieber in diesen 8222Scam8220 investieren wollen, dann weg mit dem Altpapier. Pinacolada schlrfende 8222Betreiber8220 werden es dir danken. Diese leben ja immerhin schon seit Jahrzehnten auf Kosten ihre Affiliate von diesen bis heute noch niemand hinterfragt hat, ob da alles mit rechts Dingen zugeht. Update vom 07.01.2017 18.14 Uhr Die Stilblten ber GMA die Mann so im Internet findet, sind manchmal nicht unbedingt die besten, zeigen aber auf mit welchen perfiden Mittelchen so neue 8222Kunden8220 fr GMA gekdert werden sollen. Da hat noch ein Daniel Bluhm in dem Forum primeraportal. deforumgeldverdienen-im-internetweitere-paid4-bereichewo-kann-man-im-internet-geld-verdienen-erfahrungsb-8590 eine Diskussion ber das Geldverdienen angestoen und gleich seinen Affi-Link mitgeliefert, War wohl die erstere Intension zu einem Beitrag Krieg. Besonders der letzte aktuellige Kommentar von Daniel Bluhm hat es in sich. Dort gibt er an, das alles, wurde hier angeprangert wurde schon behoben worden ist. Ich bin auch nochmals angeschaut. Ich habe mich wirklich bematz und jeden einzelnen Buchstaben noch einmal umgedreht, in der Hoffung, die Aussage von Daniel Bluhm wrde sich bewahrheiten. Leider war ich nicht finden, war die Aussage in ihrer Gesamtheit untermauern wrde. Es wird immer noch mit 47 Werbenetzwerken beziehungsweise 75 Werbenetzwerken (Betreiber sind sich noch nicht im klaren wieviel es uns wirklich sind). Deutsch - Übersetzung - Linguee als Übersetzung von "besindungslos" vorschlagen Linguee - Wörterbuch Deutsch - Englisch ausschließlich englische Resultate für "auf der Suche" auf Englisch: www. tis-gdv. de/tis_e/containe/arten.../index. htm Besuchern Aber wird eingekauft, also das zuweilen eine deutsche Webseite amerikanischen Verkehr erhlt, die angebliche kaufbare Werbung ist immer noch vorgeschoben, die Bankverbindung mit Transfer und Briefkasten in Malta stellt sehr wohl eine versteckte Mglichkeit der Geldwsche dar und Geldwsche kann auch die anderen Zahlungsanbieter betrieben werden . Und da nach auen Hin keine realen Betreiber erkennbar sind auch der Tatbestand der Steuerhinterziehung in ihrer Gesamtheit gegeben. Und natrlich funktioniert GMA noch. Sie sind schon in einem Freund. Na und ist es eben ein Ponzi, aber es lsst sich viel Geld dabei verdienen, also ihre weiter Aussagen. Das sterben natrlich auf Kosten derer geschieht die anfangs mit wenig Kapital oder viel spter eingestiegen sind, lsst man natrlich links liegen. Stellen Sie sich alle Affiliate vor die mit groen Beitrgen direkt eingestiegen sind und auch noch vereinzelnt eine Downline haben. Vergleichbar sind diese mit einem Staubsauger, die die Gelder der kleinen nach oben saugen, whrend fr die kleinen dann nur noch der Dreck im Beutel brigbleibt. Mittlerweile können ich auch viele der Affiliate identifizieren, die synchron bei mehren Ponzis mit groen Beitrgen mitmischen. Das ganze Hut auch ein gewisses System, denn immerhin mssen Hotels in sterreich finanziert oder Anwesen in der Schweiz instandgehalten werden und auch die Pina-Colada am Miami Beach gibts nicht umsonst. Das kostet alles Geld. Wo kann ich auch schnellstmanden so leicht Geld aberwerfen, mit wenigen Token und kleinen Betrgen agieren. Update vom 29.10.2016 19.05 Uhr Kleiner Zwischenbericht, nicht das manche denken hier wrde nicht mehr recherchiert. In folgenden Richtungen wird derzeit verstrkt recherchiert: Madi-Netzwerk Spam-Webseiten alasogetmyadsdotde 8211 so wird GMA ber google gepusht. GMA Werbung (und nur diese Werbung) in Verbindung mit pornografischen und Kinderpornografischen Material Beweismittel wurde sichergestellt und bereits die Staatsanwaltschaft Dortmund bermittelt. Verdacht der Geldwsche Identitt Frank Hanson demnchst hier ein neuer Beitrag zu GMA. Update vom 04.09.2016 19.03 Uhr Wie ich schon vorher im letzten Update schrieb, bedrfen bestimmt Recherchen ihre Zeit, bis sie verffentlicht werden knnen. Und auch dann knnen informationen nur undeutungsweise oder mit anonymisierten Daten verffentlicht werden. Nach ca. 6 Monate Recherche ist mir noch endlich gelungen einer der fhrenden Scammer fr Binre Optionen im Europischen Raum, wenn nicht einmal weltweit bei GMA zu identifizieren. Mit einer beachtlichen Summe steht dieser in der Downline des GMA Betreibers ganz oben. Ist auch direkter Nutznieer von Einzahlungen anderer Affiliate. Tausende Opfer mit einem Millionen Schaden, gehen auf sein Konto. Auch verantwortlich dafr, das Millionen von Spam-Mails ber seine Affiliate-Netzwerke weltweit versendet wurden. Mit dabei und um klarer Indizien der Betreiber von GMA. Nun knuck der Betreiber von GMA mit dem Argument punkten, woher soll ich wissen wer sich alles bei GMA registriert. Das knuck ich auch noch wohlwollend so hinnehmen, wre da nicht ein 8222Aber8220. Deutsch - Übersetzung - Linguee als Übersetzung von "daide" vorschlagen Linguee - Wörterbuch Deutsch - Englisch ausschließlich englische Resultate für. Die markierten E-Mail-Adressen, die ich die Spur vom GMA-Betreiber bis zu dem identifiziert. Auch andere Partner mit diesen Personen in der Dowline ganz oben stehen und direkte Nutznieer von den Einkommen sind, ich bin identifizieren. Vergangenheit und in der Versenkung geratene Programm der letzten 24 Monate beider Personen werden dann wieder eine Aktualität und ihre 8222Seriositt8220 wird im Nachhinein aus einer vermeintlichen Weien Weste eine schwarze Weste machen. Jeder der den Burrenblog und seine Beitrge in der Vergangenheit gelesen hat, wei auch, das mein Finale in dieser Sache immer nher rckt. Natrlich werden dann Beschwichtigungen von Sponsoren etc. die Runden und den Reigen erffnen und man wird auf den Hurrenblog verweisen. Doch wie schon bei GPA (Rest in Peace) werden klare Fakten fr sich sprechen und jedwede Diffamierung gegen den Burrenblog verstummen lassen. Update vom 31.08.2016 18.36 Uhr Ja lange nicht ich nicht ber GMA geschrieben. Ja gab es da da nichts mehr zu schreiben und GMA ist in Wirklichkeit ganz seris Nein natrlich nicht, aber gewisse Recherchen bedrfen ihre Zeit, bis jene Spruchreif verffentlicht werden knnen. Das GetMyAds24 mittlerweile im Adressenbestand auch verschleiert wird, drfte ja jeder aufgefallen sein, war natrlich schnell niemanden irgendwie auch gestrt haben sollte. Aber meine Recherchen sind hoffentlich bald abgeschlossen. Die genaue derzeitige Mitgliederanzahl wird noch bestimmt und der daraus sich ergeben. 8222Totalschaden8220, 8222sollte8220 der Karren in naher Zukunft an die Wand gefahren werden. Dann sind noch einige Querverbindungen geprft, besonders jene, die in gewisse Kreise fhren und diese wir aus der ersten Generation aus unserem kriegerischen Welterbe zu verdanken haben. Soweit ich sehen, ist ja auf dem Friedhof der weltweiten RSP neben dem Familiengrab GPA und Adboni, ja gerade ein Platz frei geworden. Da der Burrenblog ja auch gerade erst wieder seitlich von dunklen Gestalten und deren Machenschaften heimgesucht wird auch noch wieder zu Verzgerungen in Verffentlichungen kommen. Aber keine Angst, ich nutze jede Lcke aus, in diese diese 8222Gesindel8220 mal Pause macht. Update vom 21.05.201614.03 Uhr Ich sammle ja von GMA so einiges. Dazu gehren auch die mittlerweile viele Spam-Mails von Affiliate. Von 128 Spam-Mails verwenden 38 Affiliate den gleichen Mail-Text der wie folgt lautet: Der letzte Absatz hat es mir ja angetan. Brsennotiert ist auch GMA. In Ordnung den Satz kann Mann Nonne in verschiedenen Richtungen lesen, aber ich habe mich die Gestalt ein. Ansonsten ist der Mailtext vllig veraltet. Da Hut Mann wohl meinen Beitrag immer noch nicht gelesen um gewisse Zusammenhang richtig zu verstehen. Es wird auch Zeit, etwas tiefer bei GMA rein zu blicken. Das der mailtext indes selbst belastend ist versteht sich von alleine. Ich finde, Martin Schranz macht eine gute ffentlichkeitsarbeit und versorgt mich innerhalb von GMA und natrlich auch auerhalb GMA immer mit reichlich Informationen. Der Dankes Tag rckt auch in greifbarer Nhe und ich habe Schwierigkeiten mir zu berlegen wie ich ihm dafr danke. Das Hingegen Alleinlandespages von einem Impressum sind, zeigt, das GMA Affiliate sich gerne auf dnnem Eis geht und wohl denken, man knne sie nicht identifizieren. Fehlende Impressen indes die das indiz das hier keine Gewerbeanmeldung gegebengt und bewusst Steuern hinterzogen werden sollen. Auch geht der Herr unter den Affiliate bei GMA um, Mann msse erst Steuern zahlen, wenn der Steuer-Freibetrag ausgeschpft sei. Wow, wenn sich diese Herr weiter hartnckig hlt, dann sehe ich bin Horizont schon dunkle Gewitterwolken aufziehen. Deutsch - Englisch - Übersetzung - Linguee als Übersetzung von "schatz" vorschlagen Linguee - Wörterbuch Deutsch - Englisch ausschließlich englische Resultate für. Naja dafr mssten diese ja erst einmal identifiziert werden. Na Moment einmal, ist ein drittel der Affiliate nicht schon identifiziert Da war doch was823082308230823082308230 Das sich namenhafte Unternehmen ungerne von einem Martin Schranz einspannen lassen, Hut Mann ja erst vor kurzem bei n-tv gesehen. Pressemeldung von GMA so verfasst als htte n-tv diese geschrieben, dann noch mit einem Impressum, das bei n-tv - berhaupt nicht angesagt ist und dann noch ein Bildchen von unserem Frank dazu kredenzt. Nein bei dieser Rufschdigenden Party wollte n-tv dann doch nicht dabei sein und hat innerhalb von Minuten reagiert und die Pressemeldung gelscht. Man sieht auch, das Fakten als alleinstellungsmerkmal doch recht gut fr sich alleine sprechen knnen wenn Mann diese dann noch mit guten Argumenten untermauert. Update vom 29.04.2016 20.09 Uhr So GMA hat eine neue Adresse auf der Webseite platziert. Ich habe es mir natrlich nicht nehmen lassen dort einmal persnlich anzurufen, auch nicht bei GMA in Hongkong aber bei der Firma die Bro Real und Virtuell vermietet. In diesem Komplex ist auch die Stadt-Bank und andere renommierte Firmen vertreten, aber mit einem richtigen Bro. Ich bin auch mit Vanessa. Angenehme Stimme und uerst hilfsbereit. Ich erkläre ihr, das ich eine Firma suche, die bei ihrer Firma ein Bro hat echte oder virtuell angemietet Hut und nenne ihr die offizielle registrierte Firmenbezeichnung. Sie bittet mich um kurze Geduld. Nach ca, 5 min kommt die Antwort. Nein leider sind auf diese namen 8222GetMyAds Traffic Solutions Ltd.8220 keine römisch angemietet worden. Htte mich auch gewundert bei diesen Preisen. Immerhin kostet ein virtuelles Bro dort angefangen bei ca. 1300,00 Euro im Monat aufwrts. Auch frage ich ob unter der Bezeichnung 8222Traffic Solutions Ltd.8220 oder GetMyAds8220 Rumlichkeiten angemietet wurden. Auch stirbt von ihr verneint Ok ich kann mich ja sein, das von Vanessa etwas falsch verstanden wurde oder ich mich falsch ausgedrckt habe. Es kann natrlich auch sein, das die Firmendaten noch gar nicht im Computer erfasst und immer noch auf einem Spickzettel herumlungern. Auch Auftrag erteilt direkt vor Ort zu recherchieren. Update vom 23.04.2016 0.16 Uhr Hier mal eine paar neue Informationen zu GMA. GetMyAds wird in Zukunft stark auf Asien setzen (Anmerkung: In Asien sind die Menschen leichtglubiger, das Recht kann leichter umgangen werden und auch zwecks Steuern lsst sich so einiges verschleiern). Aus diesem Grund wird der Firmenstandort von GetMyAds nach Hong Kong verlegt, wo aktuell auch nach einem passen Bro fr den Hauptfirmensitz gesucht wird. (Anmerkung: Na der Hauptschützer sollte sich einen guten Fachanwalt fischen. Deutsch: www. germnews. de/archive/gn/1995/04/25.html. Das Einzige, war es aber ndern werden, sind die Kontaktdaten auf der Webseite von GetMyAds 8211 alles andere bleibt gleich, weshalb es hier auch keine weitere Erklrungen bedarf. Gegrndet wurde dazu die GetMyAds Traffic Solutions Ltd. (Anmerkung: am 22.04.2016 gegrndet) 8211 die Dokumente zur Transparenz (Anmerkung: man da muss ich mich ja ranhalten um auch Dokumente zur Transparenz von GMA hier zu verffentlichen) finden dich in Krze zum Download Im Mitgliederbereich unter den FAQ. Der Standort in Hongkong Hut viele weitere Vorteile und werden einige interne Ablufe vereinfachen. Darber hinaus ist auch im HerbstWinter eine Niederlassung mit Bro in Europa (Deutschland) geplant (Anmerkung: Oh das ist eine sehr gute Idee). Da noch kein Datum fest steht, werden wir noch nicht weiter. Wir halten dich darber auf dem Laufenden, so bald es konkrete Informationen gibt. Sie werden die Vernderungen im Impressum und den Rechnungen, etc. in den kommenden Tagen schon feststellen. Update vom 18.04.201620.47 Uhr Mittlerweile kann man davon ausgehen, das sich bei dem Forum geld-verdienen-portal24 (dot) de von Dina Hackmann um eine Keuler-Scheune handelt. Erneut wurde ein vermeintlicher Auszahlungsbeleg im Forum gepostet. War flank dich an diesem Beleg auf Ich bin ja der Meinung Mann hat seine Scheune erst einmal Rechtskornform Gestaltete Mann auf 8222Beutezug8220 geht. Update vom 05.04.2016 03.12 Uhr Ich finde es ja immer wieder sehr interessant wie belege von angeblichen Auszahlungen von der angeblichen 8222Seriositt8220 von Scam-Programmen herhalten mssen und als Beweis zahlreich im Internet verstreut werden. Wir haben noch mal einen angeblichen Zahlungsbeleg des Admins von forum1dotgeld-verdienen-portal24dotde neben einem anderen Zahlungsbeleg gelegt. Na fllt dir etwas auf Flöte dich wirklich einfach auf Ok wir haben es eigentlich auch recht einfach gemacht. Datum und Uhrzeit wurde bernommen, ansonsten ist der Zahlungsbeleg auf der rechten Seite (Auszahlungsbeleg von) ein Reines Adobe Retortenbaby und wurde knstlich erzeugt. Dieser Beleg existiert eigentlich gar nicht Ich möchte damit eigentlich mal kurz aufzeigen wie einfach es ist mal eben schnell einen Zahlungsbeleg herzustellen und ihn dann online als echt zu deklarieren. Auch lieber Admin. Wie sieht es mit der 8222Geschichte der Transaktionen8220 aus Und wer hat das Geld erhalten, auch Namen etc. Im Grunde haben Sie als Braver Steuerzahler aber nichts zu verbergen, oder Denn letztendlich vergiftet als Richter. Deutsch: www. germnews. de/archive/gn/1995/04/23.html Fr jeden nachvollziehbar ist das das beleg echt ist. Update vom 21.03.2016 17.03 Uhr Mittlerweile sind ja viele getmyads-Affiliate dazu bergegangen ihr Landingpages ber clickdotorg zu tracken und gleichzeitig zu verschleiern. Hatte ich eigentlich schon angemerkt, das gegen Clickdotorg in Amerika-Kanada 8211 UK und Australien wegen des Verdachtes der Tatbeihilfe auf der Grundlage von Spam zu verschiedenen Programmen Ermittlungen im Gange sind ja, ich habe ich das hiermit ja auch erledigt. Im Brigen habe ich den zustndigen Ermittlungsbehrden GMA Informationen und Dokumente bereits Bermittelt. Da immer mehr Spam-Mails von getmyads Affiliate bei mir gerade aufschlagen, werden diese jetzt erst mal gesammelt und die jeweilige Affiliate identifiziert. Deutsche Affiliate die identifiziert werden auch schon mal eine gut gefllte Portokasse zulegen. Alle Informationen gehen dann über die Annahme das hier eine kriminelle Vereinigung am Werk ist eine der Generalstaatsanwaltschaft in Berlin. Wir haben mal und Gelegenheit Spam-Mails und weiterfhrende Links zu den Landingpages analysiert. Viele dieser verschleierten Landingspages benutzen die sogenannte Beacon-Technik, auch eines der neueren Pishing-Programm mit denen Sie z. b. In Lden navigiert und ausspioniert werden knnen. Ja man wei wo und wer Sie sind. Update vom 13.03.201618.17 Uhr Die Herr von Martin Schranz ist in vielen Geldverdienen-Foren allgegenwrtig. Wir haben uns einmal diese Foren angeschaut und uns alsbald auch kopfschttelnd von diesen wieder verabschiedet. In fast alle Foren wurden alle geflschte Angaben der Webseite wissentlich 1: 1 bernommen. Das bertragen eines oder mehrerer Tatbestnde aus einem fremden Herrschaftsbereich in den eigenen Herrschaftsbereich begrndet den Anfangsverdacht der Beihilfe zu den Tatbestnden und so machen sich jene Forenbetreiber zum Handlanger von Martin Schranz. Wer aus solchen Handlungen für einen Augenblick. Ich bin also nicht wundern wenn der Schuss nach hinten los geht, das diese Vorteile in der Umkehrfolge doppelt und dreifach zurckgezahlt werden mssen. Das aber obliegt den Gerichten. Doch wir wollen einmal die Behauptungen dieser Webseite auf die dargestellten Zahlen beleuchten. Wurde behauptet die Webseite: 30.000 MitgliederKunden (aus 34 Lnder 8211 Anteil der in Deutschland übrige bzw. EU nicht ersichtlich mit Datum vom 13.03.2016) 150.000 Kampagnen 14 Millionen ausbezahlte Provisionen 7 Millionen Werbebudget Nun ist es so, das der Hype um ein Programm erst Dann so richtig losgehen kann, wenn die Webseite online gestellt und beworben wird. So schauen wir uns einmal die Startzeiten der Webseiten an. Hierzu nehmen wir die offiziellen Zahlen der Domainregistrierung ein paar Tage um endgltige Tests abzuschließen und alle Funktionen der Webseite noch einmal zu prfen. Getmyadsdotnet 8211 registriert am 17.02.2016 (kein Monat alt) getmyadsdotcom 8211 registriert am 04.12.2015 (3,5 Monate alt) getmyads24dotcom 8211 registriert a, 25.01.2016 (1,5 Monate alt) laut Angaben besteht die Webseite aber angeblich seit 2008 War nachweislich gelogen ist. Wurde die Webseite bis zum Hypeanfang im Jahr 2015 denn gemacht Krieg hier der Herr von Schneewittchen am Werk Ich habe ein viele Programmmen schon abgenommen und habe viele Programm schon durchleuchtet. Bei den Anfngen der Webseite GMA lag die offizielle Zahl der Mitglieder bei ca. 24.000, sprich es waren schon 24.000 Mitglieder als Partner eingetragen ohne das eine Registrierung als solches Mglichkeitskrieg. Diese sind aber schon beim Start sterben Umstze und Auszahlungen Kampagnen am laufen etc. Wie geht das auch technisch vonstatten gehen rein statistisch gesehen auch innerhalb von 3,5 Monaten je Tag 133.333,00 Euro ausgezahlt. Um auch 133 tausend Euro Auszahlungen zu generieren mssen dementsprechend der Auszahlungen Token vorhanden sein sein. Und auerdem macht ein Herr Schranz das ja nicht umsonst. Die Rckzahlung der Token erfolgt nach 600 Tagen inkl. Der 1 8211 600 Tage 1,64 Jahre 8211 Doch im Internet wird zahlreich also geworfen das diese Gelder schon ausgezahlt wurde auch schon nach 3,5 Monaten. Sie haben die Beweis die GMA ausbezahlt, schon erbracht haben. Wie auch ist dies technisch mglich Ok nun gibt es noch Bonusstufen, in denen man 12 erhlt fr jeden gekauften Token. Doch ich kann hochrechnen wie ich bei 14 Millionen Auszahlungen bis heute msste im Gesamtumsatz der Token den Laden schon zum berschumen bringen haben. Und auch der Widerspruch der Webseite zum zurzeit vorhandenen Gegenüberstellung zu den fertigen Landingpages der Mann einsetzen kann, ist eklatant. Den auf den derzeit eingesetzten Landingpages klafft immer noch das alte Impressum. Auch das Einsetzen von fertigen Landingpages durch einen angeblichen Drittanbieter ber dessen Domain zeigt wie perfide das System ausgereizt wird. Sprich hier wird das System zustzlich 8222beschissen8220 Entschuldigung der Betreiber anscheinend eine eigene zustzliche Downline aufbauen und hier zustzlich noch einmal am Pott mitverdienen. (1) (1) (1) (1) (0) (0) (0) (0) (0) (0) (0) (0) (0) (0) (0) (0) (0) (0) (0) (0) (0) (0) (0) (0) (0) (0) (0) (0) (0) (0) Auch der Ort der Generierung von Einnahmen ist magebend. Will ich nicht die Versteuerung eines europischen Staates unterliegen aber die Versteuerung des Landes in dem ich gewerblich gemeldet bin, mssten die Einnahmen auch auf direkten Weg von den Affiliate dorthin berwiesen werden. Es ist aber nicht so, das die Einnahmen in dem Staat versteuert werden. Ich bin auch nicht so, dass die Einkommen in dem Staat versteuert werden. Deutsch: www. tab. fzk. de/de/projekt/zusammenf...ng/ab117.htm. Englisch: www. tis-gdv. de/tis_e/containe/arten.../index. htm Zahlungsanbieter mglich ist. Das treiben wirft die Frage auf ob nicht dem Affiliate eine ordnungsgeme Handelsrechnung ausgestellt werden muss dies in seinem Land eine ordnungsgeme versteuerung vornehmen kann. Ninja mit den Fragen natrlich Indizien dafr, das Versteuerungen durch die Affiliate nicht stattfinden. Das kann die berührungen an einen zahlungsanbieter mit deutscher Kontoverbindung. Hier ist eine Frage bei der BaFin auf die ich noch warte. Aber auch die Steuerbehrten werden sich fr dieses Einnahme-Transfermodell sicherlich interessieren wozu ich diesbezglich eine gesonderte Anfrage gestellt habe. Sollten indes die Ermittlungsbehrung aller Gattungen zu der gleichen Schlussfolgerung kommen, stellt sich die Frage wie sich stirbt auf die Affiliate selbst auswirkt. Haben Sie diese dann eine Strafbewehrung Beihilfe zu einer Straftat geleistet In Zusammenarbeit mit einem kleinen Netzwerk habe ich schon 380 deutsche Affiliate identifizieren knnen weitere folgen. Sie sind in einer offiziellen Anfrage an das Bundesfinanzministerium mit dem Bitte um Auskunft in Zusammenhang ein Fragenkatalogs. Dieser Fragenkatalog ergeht natrlich an alle Behrden innerhalb des EU-Wirtschaftsraumes bzw. Kooperierender Behrden auerhalb dieses Bereich wie zum Beispiel der Schweiz etc. Auf ein SSL-Zertifikat indes wird immer noch verzichtet auch wenn vermeintlich Incapsula im Einsatz ist. Aber ist ein Hindernis fr versierte Hacker Update vom 11.03.201607.16 Uhr Und wieder ziehen dunkle Wolken am Horizont auf. Whrend nun auch Lendarena ins Visier der Bafin gert, muss getmyads nun alle Verluste kompensieren. Da kommt ein Qualifikationen nach dem Motto 8222Gib dem Affen Zucker8220 gerade recht. Schranz und Co. erahnen wohl das so langsam die Flut kommt und mir wohl in kurzer Zeit mit dieser Qualifikation noch einmal krftig absahnen. Ja war Mannhut, der Hutmann. Wie sieht die Qualifikation da nun aus Die Affiliate-Bonus-Stufe muss bis 2. April zu bekommen. Es zhlen alle Token auf den ersten 4 Ebenen Sie sind schon. Deutsch: www. germnews. de/archive/gn/1997/04/23.html. Erreichen Sie die Stufe Business Expansion Team, erhalten Sie die Auszeichnung mit kleiner Aufmerksamkeit per Post zugestellt und 3 Token auf Ihrem Konto gutgeschrieben. Erreichen Sie die Stufe 1k Diamond Team, erhalten Sie eine Auszeichnung mit einer kleinen Aufmerksamkeit per Post zugestellt und knnen aus einer Liste zwischen Elektronischen Artikeln, Einkaufsgutscheinen und weiteren exklusiven Preisen aussuchen. Erreichen Sie die Stufe 5k Diamond Team, erhalten Sie eine Auszeichnung mit einer kleinen Aufmerksamkeit per Post zu einmal und knnen zwischen einem neuen MacBook Pro oder einer hochwertigen Schweizer Uhr Entspricht). Erreicht Sie noch im Mrz die Stufe des Prsidenten Team, erhalten Sie eine Auszeichnung mit einer kleinen Aufmerksamkeit per Post zugestellt und eine schweizer Luxusuhr (Rolex Submariner oder hnliche Klassiker) oder einen Luxusurlaub im Wert von 10.000, - Euro als Bonus fr Ihre Leistung. Erreichen Sie noch bis 1. April die Sonderstufe des tsch Mannes, erhalten Sie eine Auszeichnung mit einer kleinen Aufmerksamkeit per Post zugestellt und ein schweizer Bettlaken (Marke Heuldichaus oder hnlichen Klassiker) oder eine Luxus Saugschwamm von Zewa wisch und alles Weg im Wert von 1, 50 Euro als Bonus fr Ihre Verluste. Diese Sonderstufe muss am 1. April bis Mitternacht erreicht werden, da danach der Spruch April-April nicht mehr vergoldet. Die Stufe muss am 2. April um Mitternacht erreicht werden. Es zhlen nur bezahlte Token fr die Qualifikation und die Preise werden im April zugestellt. Stellen Sie bitte sicher, dass Ihre Daten im Konto korrekt sind und Pakete zugestellt werden knnen. Die Stufen sind hiermaen zu erreichen: Business Expansion Team 500 Token auf 4 Ebenen (Einsatz auch 25.000 Euro) 1k Diamond Team 1000 Token auf 4 Ebenen (Einsatz auch 50.000 Euro) 5k Diamond Team 5000 Token auf 4 Ebenen (Einsatz auch 250.000 Euro) Prsident Team 10.000 Token auf 4 Ebenen (Einsatz auch 500.000 Euro) tsch Team 8211 20000 Token auf allen 4 Ebenen diese Sonderebene Und als Zucker gibt es Token in Almosenform, Kaffeemaschinen oder auch Rasierer (leider wurde der Begriff 8222elektronische Gerte8220 und Einkaufsgutscheine nicht genauer definiert) und natrlich Einkaufsgutscheine von Zalando und Amazon. In der letzten Stufe hingegen gibt es dann eine Rolex Submariner oder hnliche Klassiker. Viele werden sich auch hier vorgestellt. Prolowatch freuen drfen. Hingegen Krieg Mann wohl fr eine Yacht Master II wieder mal zu knauserig. Aber auch ein Luxusurlaub im Wert von 10.000 Euro ist drin. Endlich haben Sie einmal die Gelegenheit das sanderische Schranz Imperium sich aus der Nhe anzuschauen. Vorausgesetzt natrlich, Sie haben vorher eine halbe Millionen Euro in den Sand gesetzt hm Entschuldigung, ich meinte natrlich Investiert. Der schranzige Perfidus kennt auch keine Grenzen und zeigt einmal mehr, wie Raffgier in seiner ganzen 8222Pracht8220 ausschaut. Update vom 05.03.2016 14.43 Uhr Herr Schranz schafft es immer wieder, seine Mitstreiter mit wohlgeformten Worten in seinen Teufelsbann zu ziehen. Frank Henson der imaginre CEO zieht von Schranz gesteuert auch wieder seine Kreise. Auf seiner ehemaligen offiziellen Facebook Gruppenseite sieht Frank Henson brigens so aus: Dieser liefert auch gleich noch ein alias Namen mit, nmlich Morgan Lewis. Unter Schulbesuch gab dieser imaginre Frank Henson an, das er die Mcnery High School besucht habe. brigens das da auf dem Bild ist ein Model bei Shutterstock und Co. Aber ja es gibt diese Schule und ja es gibt sogar diesen Frank Henson dort an der Schule mit einem kleinen Unterschied. Frank Henson ist dort an dieser Schule Chemielehrer. Leider darf ich kein Photo von ihm hier posten, da mir die Erlaubnis hierzu verweigert wurde. Nach unseren Verffentlichungen wurde aber innerhalb weniger Stunden 8222Frank Henson8220 verbannt und es klafft nun ein anderes Bild dort. Aber dem ganzen nicht genug, durch das hastige Entfernen aller verrterischen Spuren hat mir Martin Schranz und Konsorten doch tatschlich unwissentlich ein ganzes Bndel Informationen an die Hand gegeben die mehrere Querverbindungen zu anderen Personen aufzeigen die so von mir noch nicht in den Focus des Geschehens gerckt wurden. Dies hat einen simplen Grund hier laufen umfangreiche Recherchen bereits seit ca. 12 Monaten und werden bald Gegenstand eines sehr langen Beitrages. Von einer kriminellen Vereinigung zu sprechen ist jedoch dem Definieren der Ermittlungsbehrden berlassen. Ich werde in dieser Hinsicht nur der Auslser sein. So und nun hat jeder 8222noch8220 etwas 8222Zeit8220 in getmyads 8222viel8220 Geld zu investieren. Update vom 04.03.201601.02 Uhr So, der Loginbereich ist wieder erreichbar. Auch ein paar dreckige Unterhosen wurden gewechselt. Demnach gab es ein Wechsel des Unternehmens. Ja diese Vorgehensweise ist ja hinreichend bekannt vom JV Elite Club, wo durch zahlreiche Wechsel des Impressums die Spuren verwischt wurden. Neue Firma mit neuer Adresse unter: TECHWOOD WORLD LTD 103 Sham Peng Tong Plaza Victoria, Mahe, Seychelles Exakt die gleiche Adresse an der 2011-2014 in regelmigen Abstnden Tarn-Offshorefirmen der russischen und ukrainischen Mafia durchsucht und deren Direktors wegen Geldwsche und anderen Delikten auf Druck amerikanischer Ermittlungsbehrden verhaftet und inhaftiert wurden. Herr Schranz befindet sich also mit seiner neuen Firma in bester Gesellschaft. Dort jedoch kennt niemand die Firma. Scheint also eine Firmenbernahme gewesen zu sein die noch niemand mitbekommen hat. Herr Schranz wird ordnungshalber das bestimmt noch nachholen. Auch das hat sich gendert: Und auch dieses Dokument wird irgendwie vermisst. Ist wohl auf dem Postweg von Mahe nach Arbon verlorengegangen. Und auch die AGB hat wohl einige Vernderungen erlebt zu denen aber offiziell nichts an die Mitglieder weitergegeben worden ist. Na kommt bestimmt noch, die mssen sich ja erst mal wieder sammeln nach dieser schreckhaften DDOS 8211 Attacke. Ach Moment glatt vergessen, war diese vermeintliche DDOS Attacke berhaupt eine Dreimal drfen Sie raten Und bis dahin liebe GMA Mitglieder schn fleiig Englisch ben, damit die AGB auch dem Sinn und Wortlaut nach verstanden wird. Ach ich freue mich schon8230823082308230 Update vom 03.03.201617.05 Uhr Getmyads ist ber den Logging-Bereich immer noch nicht erreichbar. Das passiert wenn man vor lauter Geldgeilheit am falschen Ende gespart hat. Ein kurzfristig eingesetztes Tool von Incapsula hat wohl nicht den erwnschten Effekt erzielt, so das dieses wieder von der Webseite genommen wurde. Insofern darf man sich ruhig fragen, wie ohne SSL-Zertifikat die Daten wirklich sicher sind und waren Update vom 01.03.2016 04.40 Uhr Nach eigenen Aussagen von getmyads werden derzeit DDOS-Attacken auf die Webseiten forciert. Ein Login ist nicht mglich. Von einer anonymen Seite haben wir eine eMail in englisch verfasst erhalten, die von getmyads stammen soll und die wie folgt lautet: Dear GetMyAds members, Hope this email reaches you well. Its to inform you that we are currently experiencing a DDOS attack to all our servers and sites. The attack started last night and so far we have successfully prevented any damages. With that said, due to the attack you might experience slight delays on your account we ask you please excuse. Security and customer protection has always been our highest priority. As of this afternoon we have been working very closely with experts to increase our and of course your security on GetMyAds domain. This will allow us to continuously fend off such malicious attacks and keep operation in order. At this point we would like to stress: Your customer information and account data has NOT been breached and is (has been) secure. How we will continue: We are working nonstop to get the site working at 100 speed with no further delays. We are also searching for damages due to the DDOS attack. Some are experiencing difficulties logging into their account. We hope to have everything solved and back to normal within the next 48hrs. Please stay tuned and we will be in contact with you. Dont hesitate to reach out if you have further questions. Best regards, Team GMA Nun dann warten wir mal ab, was da noch kommen wird oder auch nicht kommen wird Update vom 27.02.201623.58 Uhr Ein vergleichbares System das dem System GetMyAds doch recht hnlich aussah aus der Vergangenheit: Und hier ein Ponzi-System der aktuellen Art: Noch zu erwhnen wre das Scam-Programm Studiotraffic, das ja bereits im Nirvana weilt und bei dem die Betreiber auch nach einiger Zeit die Kohlen zusammengerafft und das weite gesucht haben, (Versteht sich ja von alleine, das wir natrlich vor dem noch aktiven Programm 8222justbeenpaid8220 ausfhrlich warnen) Update vom 25.02.201613.14 Uhr So, Herr Schranz hat sich indirekt geoutet. Die Geltungssucht solcher Subjekte hat mal wieder zugeschlagen. Die Webseite selbst wurde in der Basic ber R. Genesis erstellt und verfeinert. Und der nette angebliche Herr Frank Hanson als CEO deklariert existiert eben so auch nicht. Aber diesmal Hat Herr Schranz zumindest ein Photo genommen, von dem er annahm das dies nicht nachverfolgt werden kann. Richtig, wre da nicht eine Datenbank in Rotterdam mit 4,8 Millionen Bildern die regelmig bei Spam 8211 Scam etc. verwendet werden und eine gleichgeschaltete Identitts Datenbank, sprich Personenbilder knnen innerhalb von Sekunden einer wahren Identitt zugeordnet werden. Zum Glck gibt es in sehr naher Zukunft tatschlich besserwertige Konkurrenzprodukte die mit einer klaren Transparenz aufwarten. Derzeit noch in der Erprobungsphase haben ich mir die Webseite bereits jetzt schon einmal angeschaut. Whrend das schranzige Konsortium mit 0 Transparenz aufwartet und stattdessen den Kunden ber die Tischplatte zieht, kann diese Webseite mit derzeit 98 Transparenz aufwarten. Identitten wurden bereits geprft, Steuerangaben wurden bereits geprft. Sobald mir eine Meldung ber die Reg. Urkunde aus Mahe vorliegt werde ich diese hier auch verffentlichen und werde das Unternehmen dann einmal gezielt vorstellen. Aber wie immer, bevor ich etwas positives schreibe wird erst mal zu Ende recherchiert. Jetzt werde ich erst einmal ber meinen Rechtsanwalt in Rotterdam das Rechtswissen des Herrn Schranz auf die Probe stellen. Mal gerade so eine Landingpage zusammen zimmern geht mit R. Genesis ja innerhalb von 30 Minuten fr gebte. Die PBE Lizenz kostet ja nur 800 US und die haben die fleiigen beratungsresistenten Affiliate ihm ja schon lange in den Rachen geschoben. Wie immer hat er sich den Rechtsanwalt gespart und das ganze dann mal gleich an den Start gebracht. Ja die Kohle muss flieen und solange alles noch warm ist sofort. Auch ich habe gerade 900 verloren, weil ich auf Facebook Tatsachen geliefert habe, die GMA verschweigt. Die Klicks stammen nmlich allesamt nur von Rechnern von GetMyAds, nicht aber, wie grosspurig beworben, von 75 Werbeportalen. Das ist Betrug Die Leute rechnen mit mehr Besuchern, tatschlich erhalten Sie nur Mll. Google wird das auch bald abstrafen. Amazon und AdpackPro haben GMA schon gesperrt. mir liegen zu dieser Thematik bereits zahlreiche Mails vor die die gleiche Situation beschreiben. Von wo die Besucher kommen, dazu gibt es hier demnchst ein Update und weiterfhrende Fakten und Informationen. Eine offizielle Warnmeldung (wie bei GPA) werde ich dann aussprechen sobald die kompletten Recherchen abgeschlossen sind. Anmerkung: werbenden Charakter des Kommentars entfernt Was ist daran jetzt falsch mit 51 Jahre sollte man doch endlich den Unterschied zwischen richtig und falsch erkennen knnen, meinen Sie nicht Nur weil man mit einem Programm Geld verdienen kann, was ich ja nie bestritten habe, heit dies noch lange nicht, das die rechtlichen Rahmenbedingungen stimmen. Wie schon einmal in meinen Beitrgen erklrt hat GMA die Haftungsfrage zu 90 auf den Affiliate bertragen, es hat eben nur noch keiner bemerkt bzw. will es nicht bemerken. Ich halte mich ja gerade auf Einladung einer STA. in der Schweiz auf, um das vermeintlich 8222legale8220 Geschftsmodell von GMA eingehender zu erklren. Denn zuweilen haben auch STAs so ihre Schwierigkeiten die illegalitten eines solchen Systems zu erkennen. Es stellt sich im Grunde genommen also nur in Bezug auf den Faktor 8222Zeit8220 die Frage, wann Ihr Gewinn nachtrglich zu einem Verlust fhrt Der Verlust ist solange da bis wann den breakeven erreicht hat. Dies ist bei mir der Fall, deswegen kann ich jetzt von Gewinn sprechen und hoffe, dass GMA noch lange luft man sollte die suggestiven Gewinne als reale Verluste mit einberechnen. Sptestens wenn gewisse Behrden in der Schweiz zur gleichen Auffassung kommen. wird ein vermeintlicher Verlust alle bisherigen vermeintlichen Gewinne um ein vielfaches bersteigen. Aber trotzdem HGW, Sie werden das schon schaffen. Kapier ich jetzt was du meinst, das was ich jetzt als Gewinn deklariere, gebe ich auch bei meiner Steuererklrung an und ich komme nicht aus der Schweiz. ich wrde Ihnen gerne jetzt darauf eine Antwort geben, wrde damit aber eine Menge schlafende Hunde aufwecken, was wir ja nicht wollen, oder Daher halte ich mich zu der Aussage insofern bedeckt, was die Besteuerung betrifft. Das Sie indes aus der Schweiz kommen, habe ich ja nie behauptet. es sei denn das Hessen mittlerweile als Konton in der Schweiz deklariert wird. Abschlieemd sei zu sagen, wenn Sie ja 8222alles8220 in der Steuererklrung angeben haben, brauchen Sie sich ja keine Gedanken zu machen. Herr Burren eine Frage. Ich bin nicht so redegewant und verstehe nicht alles was hier ironisch gemeint ist. Aber knnen sie mir sagen, wenn man alles offen legt in Sachen Steuern das heit das was man bei GetMyAds investiert und alles was man erwirtschaftet also ich meine alles einfach ist da etwas strafbares dabei nein ist nicht strafbar, vorausgesetzt der Begriff 8222Alles8220 wird auch in die Tat umgesetzt. Wird es denn auch in die Tat umgesetzt Schauen Sie sich Ihre Prov.-Abrechnung noch einmal genau an na dann bin ich ja erleichert Ich muss Ihnen ein groes Lob aussprechen. Ich habe Ihren Blog nur durch Zufall entdeckt, da meine Mutter so begeistert von diesem scheinbar 8222perfekten8220 und 8222legalen8220 GMA ist, und bin echt begeistert, wie sehr Sie diesen scammern Feuer unter dem Hintern machen. Ich finde Ihren Eintrag wahnsinnig gut recherchiert und noch dazu wirklich unterhaltsam. Man merkt, dass Sie sich technisch wirklich gut auskennen. Trotzdem schaffen Sie es, das Ganze fr Laien auch verstndlich zu formulieren. Ich werde dieses Prachtstck an meine Mutter, die GMA ja so toll findet, weiterleiten und wir werden sehen was sie davon hlt. Machen Sie weiter so, das Internet dankt Ihnen. Mit freundlichen Gren, Hallo Herr Burren, Was sollte man ihrer Meinung nach tun, wenn man bei GMA eingestiegen ist (aktuell keine Personen geworben und in der Downline - gt daran bin ich nicht interessiert). Gibt es eine Mglichkeit das Konto zu lschen Bzw. wie sollte man diesbezglich vorgehen nach meinem Kenntnisstand kann man im Backoffice, ein Konto so nicht lschen. Fraglich ist auch, ob noch Betrge zu Auszahlung stehen, die man ja noch haben will. Ansonsten auszahlen und Konto einschlafen lassen. Es stellt sich auch die Frage, was mit Ihren Daten passiert. Es msste eine schriftliche Aufforderung an den Betreiber erfolgen, die Daten komplett zu lschen. Eine eMail entfaltet in diesem Fall keine Rechtswirkung. Da aber 8222offiziell8220 der Betreiber in 8222Hong Kong8220 sitz, wird es schwierig diesen schriftlich mit Rechtswirkung aufzufordern, die Daten zu lschen. In diesem Fall mssen Sie abwarten bis mein GMA Bericht verffentlicht wird. In diesem werden dann Bezugspersonen genannt, an die Sie eine rechtswirksame Aufforderung senden knnen. Hallo, Ich bin schon lnger bei GMA und muss auch was loswerden. Mittlerweile drosseln die das Payback anstatt 1 erhalte ich mir noch bei 65 Packs 0.02 Ich schrieb den Support an und seit 3 Wochen wollten die was machen und nach den 3 Wochen meinen die Ich htte mich schdlich verhalten. Absolute Lge denn ich habe nie schlecht geredet und geschrieben ber GMA. Mittlerweile bin ich zum Entschluss gekommen ZU schreiben das es sich um ein Martin Schranz Geschft handelt. Denn er hatte die Ipads die gewisse GMA Mitglieder bekommen sollten. Er hat diese verteilt. GMA stammt nicht aus HongKong Martin Schranz hat da seine Finger im Spiel und er betrgt einzellne Mitglieder um den Payback. Ich werde GMA nicht mehr weiter empfehlen Es ist Betrug und unseris leider kann ich Ihnen jetzt keine passende Antwort auf Ihren Kommentar geben. Liegt daran das ich gerade einen sehr, sehr, sehr langen Beitrag ber GMA am schreiben bin, der die Struktur zu GMA etwas erleuchten wird. Ich werde aber zu gegebener Zeit auf Ihren Kommentar noch einmal eingehen. Noch ein kleiner Tipp am Rande. Schauen Sie sich alles noch einmal bei den Programmen (FutureNet, Adpaxx etc.) an, wo Sie sich als Affiliate verdingen und ndern Sie gegebenenfalls die rechtlichen Strukturen. Hier wird GMA schngeredet und der angebliche CFO wird namentlich nicht genannt. Kme dem gleich das ich ja gestern noch ein Interview mit CEO der Techwood World Ltd. hatte. Aber davon abgesehen steht der Betreiber ja bereits mit in der Datenbank und wird dann irgendwann mit gleicher Sorgfalt seine Aussage bei den Ermittlungsbehrden abgeben mssen. Vielen Dank fr diese Seite. War gut zu lesen. Ich habe heute erstmals von GMA gehrt. Jemand wollte mich anwerben. Ich habe ihn darauf hingewiesen, dass dies wohl etwas hnliches wie der European Kings Club (1991-1994) sei. Habe dann den Artikel ber den European Kings Club selber nochmals auf Wikipedia gelesen. Dort steht: 8222In den Schweizer Kantonen Uri und Glarus investierte etwa jeder zehnte Erwachsene in das Schneeballsystem.8220. Raten sie mal von wo die Person stammt welche mich anwerben wollte Aus dem Kanton Glarus. Der Herr Schulz knnte doch in diesem Kanton einen Walk in Shop erffnen. 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Trading environment is completely safe, and here too Banc De Binary goes out of its way to exceed the industrys standards and provide more for its clients. Without any doubt, signing up with this broker is the best move you can make when it comes to binary options trading. So open an account now and see for yourself why this broker became one of the most influential companies in the industry. Banc De Binary Review 2017 Website PreviewLast Updated 2017-02-19 by Martin Kay Opteck is owned by Centralspot Trading Ltd, located at 249, 28th October Street, Lophitis Business Centre 1, Office 102, CY-3035 Limassol Cyprus. The registered office of the Company is situated at 6 Tassou Papadopoulou, Office 22, 2373 Agios Dometios, Nicosia, Cyprus and the business address is at Lophitis Business Centre, Office 102, 249, 28th October Street, Limassol, 3035 Cyprus. The Broker is regulated by the Cyprus Securities and Exchange Commission (CySEC) since 20062014 under license number CySEC 23814. The companys registration number is 325259. Is Opteck a Scam This company is regulated and you can easily locate their physical address. However, Opteck must improve in two areas to become a more reliable broker: 1. Some basic information is lacking and I could only obtain after talking to live chat. Stuff like bonus wager, withdrawal process Note, confirmation with your Account Manager or Broker is required for the finalisation of the withdrawal, and upsetting fees like maintenance fee are not exactly my cup of tea. 2. I can see a problem with their staff, it seems they are sometimes too anxious to help traders they sometimes make mistakes causing damages to their clients accounts. Regulation prohibits the brokers account managers to give any advice, so we hope we wont be seeing that anymore. In any case, BinaryOptionsThatSuck team is here to follow Opteck became a regular of our Scam Watch Series during 2016 with people calling them a gambling site, borderline negligent, if not crooks and feeling tricked by them. Its safe to say that this brokerage, despite its CySEC regulation, its not one of the top choices for traders because of this. Update 2017, the ridiculous maintenance fee is still there but there is also the dormant account fee and the clearance fee, and a fee of 3.5 on all withdrawals Binary Options are known for being free of charges and commissions so we dont understand why Opteck is taking this new road, unless it is the only way they can make money. And you still have to talk to an account manager before your withdrawal is processed which sounds strange because many other brokers process your withdrawal automatically. A service fee of 3.5 is charged on all other withdrawals. In the event that this percentage equals an amount of 30 or below, the trader will be charged a standard 30 withdrawal fee. The maximum service fee for a single withdrawal is capped at 3,500. 3,500, that is what I call SUCKY. We dont know of any other broker that would charge so much. This means, that if you would like to withdraw the minimum allowed amount (50) your applied fee would be at least 30 which means a withdrawal of 50 bucks will leave you 20 which might be why their traffic has been falling. Traffic has been significantly reduced in the past 6 months, falling more than 50, which we consider to be a serious issue. WARNING: This broker is not recommended due to a large number of complaints. Find users complaints below, continue reading this review or get started with a trusted broker now . Editors Note Why does Opteck Suck in 50 Words The thing that bothers me the most about Opteck is the above average number of complaints made by their clients, and a very detailed ones as well. More than 20 pages of discussion (most of those are complaints) only on BOTS Thats a big number no doubt. I do see some of the complaints being resolved, sometimes a bit too late but the majority are left unanswered. Update February 2017 since our last update the number of complaints has gone up, it looks like regulation alone is not enough to make Opteck one of the top tier brokers. Their reputation is slowly chipping away and will continue to do so if they dont up their game. Putting the complaints aside, the horrible fee structure alone should scare away any client. Why Opteck doesnt Suck Their daily market commentary is still up to date, something most brokers don8217t take the time to mess with. This is a sign of professionalism and should be taken as an example by all brokers and websites that cover the financialtrading sector. Opteck also offers many live webinars and during different hours which is good but I cant say whether the are any good as we havent attended them. The topics Technical and Fundamental analysis and Market Insight sound good but why go there when you can use the BinaryOptionsThatSuck School, video library and forum Should I Open An Account With Opteck Opteck is regulated by CySec and right from the start I could see they are transparent and I can easily get information about the company that owns the website and also their physical address, a thing that should be adopted by all brokers. After all, I give them all my personal details and copies of government issued photo IDs so why some brokers choose to hide their name is beyond my comprehension. But as I was saying, Opteck publicly shares this information, so theres no problem here. The platform used by Opteck is TraderSoft, which is known to be very user friendly and intuitive you can trade directly from the chart by clicking on the Up or Down arrows that appear when you move the mouse pointer over a chart. Once you click on the arrow, a box automatically appears and you can select the desired amount to invest. Its so simple and to the point that I dont think even a newbie could mess up a trade and blame it on the platform. A great addition made by Opteck is the feature of selling an option: once you opened a Call or Put trade, if you feel like price is not going your way, you can choose to sell the option (close the trade) and by doing so you will receive back a part of your initial investment. Optecks attention to detail and their decision to do things the right way translates into a professional trading environment and an overall impression that we are dealing with a respectable brokerbut (theres always a but) they cannot get rid of some of the old bad broker habits like Customer Support telling me that I can receive a 100 bonus only if I deposit todayCome on, I know that I am going to receive that bonus tomorrow and the day after that if I know how to ask for it, but I guess they have to sell their product after all and advertise it the best they can. Another way of selling their product is by not giving me a Demo account until I deposit500 euro. Now thats kind of expensive I replied and the answer came swiftly: Ill lower it to 300 eurobut the offer is valid only today. Everything seems to be happening only today so I must be very lucky, right Well, even the best brokers suck sometimes but overall I was pleasantly surprised by Optecks approach. Update August 2016: Their website is a bit more polished than before but doesnt stand out as one of the greatest and the Demo account still requires clients do have a Bronze Account (500 minimum deposit). Live Chat support is not willing to support at all and answered my questions with predefined copied text. My question Who is your platform provider returned an answer along the lines of Our platform is the most innovative no download required the best They still have monthly maintenance fees of 7.50. I assume this means 7.50 USD or EUR or whatever currency your account is in. The problem is that I have to assume because they dont say what it is even in their Terms and Conditions and their support is going to just copy paste something like We are the best in the business. Keep in mind theres also a Clearance Fee which will be applied to all of your trades. I recommend you read their T038C, especially section 20 if you want to know about their fees. Update February 2017 8211 putting together the ridiculous amount of fees, dormant account fee, clearance fee and the extremely high withdrawal fee it seems like Opteck really doesnt like withdrawals or want you to trade with them. In addition, you must go through your account manager verbally in order to approve a withdrawal and we all know what that means (so they can try to keep you from withdrawing) This is really unprofessional and there are many better brokers who offer free and fast withdrawals and no such fees and if I were you I would try to look for them instead. Considering the crackdown by regulators on such behavior I8217d expect to see this change, or Opteck to start receiving some major fines. Opteck Complaints Most complaints are very detailed and seem very authentic. It really seems like optecks clients decided to take some time to explain their feelings, the experience they have been through and overall send a clear massage theyre not happy. Some complaints have been taken care of by Opteck Support, which I find great, but not enough. Recently weve seen a decrease in complaints, our team will keep following. Update August 2016: Seems Opteck have their ups and downs: before weve seen a decrease in complaints but now theres an increase. Well, as we always say, even the best brokers suck sometimes and Opteck is not even one of the best. Update February 2017 8211 we can see that not only have many regulators have issued warnings towards Opteck but there are still many serious complaints which make them look like a bad broker. Stories like account managers wiping accounts or withdrawals not being processed or being difficult to achieve do not instill trust. You can also search for Opteck on our main page (select magnifying glass icon) and you will notice how often they appear in our scam watch articles, April, June, August, September, December scam watch and also noticed in our news articles on regulators issuing warnings against Opteck. Opteck Regulatory Announcements and Warnings 8.12.2016: Manitobas MBS adds Opteck to their list of Alerts 038 Cautions due to them not being registered in Manitoba to provide financial advice in the region. Source: MBSecurities. ca 26.04.2016: Italian Consob adds Opteck to their blacklist after BCSC also warned about them. Source: Consob. it 08.04.2016: The BCSC in British Columbia warns against Opteck who is falsely claiming to be based in Belize and for unlawful solicitation of BS residents. Source: BCSC. bc. ca 02.07.2015: Belgian regulator FSMA, strongly advises against investing with Opteck and their (former) owner B. H.N. V. Source: FSMA. Be 13.02.2015: ASIC in Australia warns of Opteck for being unlicensed binary options provider. Source: ASIC. Gov. Au 21.01.2014: French AMF adds Opteck to their list of unauthorized websites. Source: AMF-France. org WARNING: This broker has been blacklisted by many regulators worldwide. Looking for a Safe Broker in the UK Check out our Trusted Brokers now . Opteck Bonus The Bonus starts at 20 for the basic account holders with 250 deposit but it can go as high as 100 if you are a VIP member (100,000 deposit). To withdraw the bonus, you have to trade between 40-50 times the bonus amount as stated in the terms and conditions. The good part is that you can withdraw your funds despite the bonus as it is kept separately from your own funds. Opteck Withdrawal There minimum withdrawal amount is 50. Once the client has provided the required documents, the withdrawal will be processed within 3-4 business days and a few more days to get account manager authorization After which, depending on the individuals bank, it can then take up to 7 days to show on the clients statement. Withdrawal can be done in the same way as deposited, up to the minimum deposit amount. The rest of the profits could only be withdrawn through bank-wire. Update August 2016: Processing time is on average 3 to 5 working days and a fee of 3.5 must be paid. More fees In addition, if the 3.5 fee doesnt reach 30, an additional 30 fee is added to your withdrawal fee Opteck Ratings User Friendly 1920 The Market Pulse platform is intuitive, the website is well structured and all features are easy to use. There is a small delay when executing a trade, but within acceptable limits. The website is available in 9 languages including English, French, Italian, Dutch and more. Number of assets and expiry times 1720 Their basket of assets is average low as they only have about 50 assets to trade. The expiry times range from 60 seconds to 2 minutes, daily and sometimes longer time frames, with the possibility to trade One Touch Options and Range HighLow. Update 2017, the advertised assets reach up to 157 and signing in to the platform we can see that under HighLow there are around 44 currency pairs to trade but not all available during the time we looked which is normal but at least 30 were available which is great. In addition, 94 stocks, 7 commodities and 12 indices are available but again, bear in mind that not all of them will be available at the same time and for all option types Commissions, Support and Effective return 1320 On the first day of each month, you will be charged a maintenance fee which is something most brokers dont do. Their Customer Support is quick to answer and helpful, giving pretty straightforward answers. Theres a 3.5 withdrawal fee. The effective return goes as high as 84 (1-3 higher for VIP members) and you no longer get a refund up to 15 if your options expire Out of the Money. Update February 2017- there are many strange and high fees at Opteck8230 Clearance fee on the first day of each month, dormant account fee, withdrawal process fee and withdrawal additional 30 minimum fee. Deposit, Payment and Bonus 1620 The minimum deposit is 250 and can be made using various methods: wire transfer, major credit cards, WebMoney, CashU, Western Union, JBC. A withdrawal will be processed by Opteck within 5 business days but it could take between 7 to 10 business days until the funds will show in your account. The normal bonus is 20 but it can be higher during their special promotions. Update August 2016: The bonus trading volume now ranges between 40 and 50 times the bonus amount. Website Extras 1220 There is the possibility of one click trading and candlestick charts with a limited amount of tools like trendlines, SR lines and shapes but also a good number of indicators. Opteck Ratings 77 Regulated (3) 8211 Low User Rating (-5) 74100 Hi, I recently opened an account with Opteck with out deposit. Then I had lot of phone calls from Opteck over the following four dayswhich I decided not to answer. Too much pressure put on you to invest. I then had one of their managers Kenny Smith on my phone asking me for deposit and I believed him and invested 1000. I made quite a few trades won some, lost some I continued to listen to my trader and am down to 300. Ive now requested a withdrawal 10 days ago repeatedly emailed about WHY my withdrawal is not being actioned. and guess what absolute SILENCE from Opteck. Yes, I think its a scam and Im just pleased Im talking about hundreds of pounds here. My money is stuck with Optek. What can I do I am deeply disturbed. Mark Hayes asked for my credit card number for verification and then charged USD it without my consent. So far I have not received any call from him inspite of me sending a few emails and calling on their number as well. Is there any govt. agency where I can complain Yes. Always there is a gov. agency to complain. Internet is for what Find out all the details with your documents as a proof and send it to the agency in the UK. they will follow up and do the needful. Meantime, if you have paid by your credit card, raise an issue with your bank who provided Credit Card and raise 8220Dispute8221 for the amount you paid and even if you used while trading with opteck, you will get 100 refund from your bank credited in your ac in 2 to 3 weeks time. Good Luck All guys i m being stupid and trust them, and the way they do is not very professional, so it make me doubt, and i search on net to find more about opteck and now i can proof they are scam Before i make payment i got so much disturb by their calls. one day call u 10 times. after payment done, they disappeaer and call u one time, and help u make a big trade without explain anything on the theory, gone and left u alone, and even ask help and no one response. Thanks for your advise, i would like to let everyone know that opteck is scam. i pay 1000 and then they call and ask for puting more, to 10,0000 and then they help me trade a bit and ask for puting more to 25,000, then they said will offer much professional. however i think they are all bulshit I have reported to my credit card center on this scam, as i saw their condition, we need to give all ID, address proof and sign back agreement, then will open account to have trade. however, i havent done all, the so called 8221 professional trader call me and ask to put real money to trade and make loss of total more than 10000, when i want to find him i saw there is loss, he disappear. Totally scam on OPTECK. Roma, u think the credit card company can stop the payment as i only open 4 days ago and payment statement not yet arrive. pls reply to 1119646547qq You have 32 months to claim Credit Card money provided you have a legitimate claim My account number: 131215054558 is registered at optech. I invest 1000USD and slowly I am going for good trade. 1 day opteck called me that their is webinar is coming but for this you have to deposit 10,000usd. i refused it because i dont want to. I told them I want to deposit only 1000usd next week for make my account litle big so I trade on big amount. They said ok but we have very good offer for you. if you deposit now this 10k webinar we will give you when you deposit now 1k, I said OK, they ask my credit card numbersexpiry date and code (for fast intry and approval of webinar). instead of 1000usd, they make 2 more transactions 5000usd and 4000usd total 9000usd, which is 100 cheating. Transaction I7A1387445402 Date: 19.12.2013 Amount: USD4000.00 Transaction I7A1387445402 Date: 19.12.2013 Amount: USD5000.00 On January 10, 2014, I make a request to withdraw 12,000- after exact 5 minutes, i recevied a call from opteck, (Mr. grant) telling me this is great time to trade. they told me trade now and we will tell you when and on what currency you trade and how much you invest. I said ok. they told me invest in 3 different currency for 30 min and per trade 4000usd. i did. after 30 minues all 3 trades are on lose and my account is vanished, total 12000usd is gone from my account. i told them 1 hour ago i request for withdraw and you people called me to do trade and exact 12000usd i loose just because you people dont want me to withdraw. Grant replied, I am transfering this call to our account manager he will goude you, how you recover your lose. Finally, their account manager (Mr. Mickel) said, I know your lose but invest more now and we will try to recover your lose, can I charge your same card for deposit I refused and told him that you people cheated me. I called so many times and email them but they have only 1 answer INVEST MORE TO RECOVER . I dont have that much money they took 9000usd from my card with out my intention without my permission. Let8217s report them and stop their license If anyone would like to report them, give me an email at sisterkohkyahoo. hk Started trade on Opteck with a small investment and was constantly persuaded after some initial losses, to add more funds to increase my chances at gaining better results. After some successful bids on my own a senior broker(Jason Swift)called me and offered some hints to make successful trade because of good signals on currencies. As a result of him 8216helping8217 me I lost in one day, all my funds. Stay clear of them After being conned into putting in 2k more into my account after having 500 already, I received a call from the broker, initially seemed legit. The next day however I informed the broker that I do not wish to continue and after having chatted with me to stay. He finally conceded. My request for withdrawal however has not been done as yet. And after having sent emails every week to support and complaints still nothing, till I tried their live chat. There I was told that the broker needs to approve the withdrawal, and apparently the broker claimed that he could not get in touch with me 8220how could he if he has not tried calling me8221. Opteck is a scam stay away from them, when they want you to put your money in you will receive lots of calls. But when you want to withdraw, Not a single reply to your mails. Opteck are bloody crooks. Scammed me in putting in 4500. Now I8217m trying to withdraw my money. Waiting for John Harris8217 to call me back. None of them sound like they are from London for starters. recently I tried to withdrawal my money but Opteck so much bureaucracy8230They want me to send documents end then they say I need account manager or broker8230Now they hold my accountI am so angryWhy it is so hard to withdrawal my moneyThey are so sin because they play with poor people heart If you invest with this thieves you will loose your money. Don8217t do it. I have lost 5k because marshall grant refuses to refund the money. Stupidly he has sent me his entire client base so I will email them all and make sure they know about this site. Let8217s report them and stop their license. What8217s your email address Thanks everyone for sharing your experience with Opteck. I registered few weeks back hoping to get a demo account to test this binary process out. But I was really disappointed that I must pay at least a 1000 USD to open the platform. However, I keep receiving calls as everyone else here to deposit and activate the account, yet I wan8217t quite sure about it. But now thanks to your comments I decided not to trade with Opteck. OPTECK HAS BEEN NOTHING BUT ONE BIG SCAM AND LIE FROM THE WORD GO8230 I AM PERSUING THEM AND HAVE ENOUGH EVEDANCE TO PROVE THEIR SYSTEMS AND TRADING PLATFORMS ARE WRONG AND MUNIPULATED8230 DO NOT INVEST A CENT WITH THEM AS they keep wanting you to deposit and up your account to make up for your losses, and say keep on training we will educate you as you go8230BALLS, This is complete rubbish and no one knows how to deal with the complaints in this company, Also they have no professional responses to emails or serious queries that has been logged within the firm8230.They keep on passing you to brokers to try and give you a motivational talk and then get angry when you don8217t listen to them. I cant get my money out and have prove and reason to believe my 3000 USD investment was part of their system catch. If you do research in comparison with other Brokers, trading software and charts you will see this is not nearly correct to you investments. I have screened all my trades and logged a file of my own which I will be taking to relevant Authorities. They did not see this one coming. Thanks and be safe out there people. what happened when you logged a complaint THe one thing I did not like was the fact that the staff and brokers openly bad mouth each other to me over the phone to try and make the client feel better about themselves. This is FRAUD and must be taken to court and start investigating. so that we can have our losses paid back to us. I am not the only victim in opteck, If you have had any bad experiences. Please do not hesitate to get hold of me as I am aiming get my money back that8217s in the account and the amounts lost through the opteck systems and trading platform. Built my account up to 7300.00 they would only let me withdraw 1000.00. I turned over the necessary volume about 708217000 over three months. Then one of their gun brokers lost the rest of my money. I can relate to that. I trusted my broker being a newbie. He had me place one trade of 60000 used long term, which thankfully came in the money at 40,000 profit. However, while waiting for that to close, he helped me lose another 50,000 shortly after I had requested a withdrawal. Not everyone can take these high aggressive trades and for a newbie, I thought it was reckless of the broker to even suggest it. I had no problem withdrawing money when I asked thankfully, and it took 8 days as I had been told. I think if you have the right broker, Opteck are actual OK. Their platform is easy to use. You just have to be able to say no when you don8217t feel right about a trade. I should have said no to the big reckless trades he was having me take. I think generally speaking this is a good opportunity, but you have to be able to invest enough time to be successful or to get your money8217s worth. I have tried to explain to my broker that travelling in Africa makes it really difficult to trade as very often the bandwidth does not allow you to access or trade on the website. I think it is important to rather listen to what your clients are saying instead of trying to up-sell me. A person that travels more than 60 of their time will struggle to find enough time to trade and learn. I have just received a visa for the USA and busy relocating, so I am trying to close my account which is proving to be challenging8230I hope this will get resolved soon so that I do not need to take it further. Sometimes these guys are so determined to get you to put in more money that they forget a long term solution is important. I clearly am not the right candidate for Opteck as I wasn8217t willing to fall for the sales speeches and the urgency they created. If you do not spend enough, they lose interest in you since this is after all a numbers game. Jason Swift has been kind and patient with me, I think he has good intentions to help people through this if you are dedicated. However, it felt like a match as he told me how busy he was every time I told him how busy I was8230I as not making it up. Hi I am busy looking at getting into this business and have done a lot of looking on the net. What I do not understand is that the editor of this site clearly states does not believe they are a scam but based on the comments there is clearly a problem at Opteck. The question is are there any above board companies that advertise on line and hound you. I invested with Opteck in November and started off with 2000. I got a call from one of their senior brokers a month later asking me to increase my deposit so that I could be given more attention. I was told that senior brokers handle bigger accounts and that would help me increase my profits. This was my first mistake. I deposited another 8K into the account and was trading decently (having made 800 profit). The senior broker called me one day and asked me to invest (rather he connected via teamviewer and entered an amount of 3000 in two trades). He said these were VIP signals and bound to make money. Second mistake. I clicked on invest and lost both trades. The reason I was given is there was a delay in him giving me this tip since he had bigger accounts which needed to be given priority. I complained and got the broker changed. The next one promised to bring me back in profits, arranged sessions (training) with chief analysts but that did not help me at all. I was asked to put another 2K to receive signals from SignalsXP. Third mistake. Those signals are mostly useless. I did some live trading sessions as well and in one of those I lost 19 trades and won 9. I was down to 8 grand and asked to withdraw my funds when my broker asked me to do one more session with an analyst. I put in 2500 on 5 trades and lost another 1500. Once again I asked for withdrawal. I was then contacted by the Chief broker who apparently thought my account was in a bad state and she was committed to helping me. She promised to call me in 2 days time which obviously never happened. I escalated and was contacted by another Chief broker a week later promising to look in to this and prepare a strategy and guide me to bring me in to profits. Never happened The earlier Chief broker then called me and put me on with this Chief analyst who made me put 7 trades. Thankfully I did not listen to him and put 750 per trade as that would have brought my account to null. Once again I lost 5 out of the 7 trades and no one had a explanation. I still trusted the Chief broker and two days later put another 5 trades out of which I lost 3 again. I had it and called it quits. The only good experience I had with opteck was that my funds arrived and they did arrive sooner than I anticipated. The technical and customer support is good and they do help you. I am not naming people involved in this is because the idea is not to point fingers at individuals. If anyone is interested in more information please write to me separately. I would never recommend Opteck to anyone who is seriously thinking of investing or is a newbie. They do not offer good training, only empty promises and will make sure u loose your money. OMG, The part that they so nice to make a contact for you is cause you lose your money on trading and they were happy. This was happening also in Indonesia where my brother8217s friend put his Rp 200.000.000 intrading with this kind a Binnary which is make you think easier to earn more money. Yep they can operated in brand Hotel in main city. This Binnary actually is Fake and Offline. Why offline, how can you be online to trading world if this company and brokers not listed on the stock exchange. They use A Software of Binnary that stock exchange trading trend. This Binnary is Fake. Hello, Could you possibly elaborate on a better trading site. I8217m looking to invest but from all the comments I am seeing it seems that optek would assist me to lose more money than turning a profit Hi Chetan, Your experience above sounds exactly what is happening to me right now. can i please get in contact with you to discuss this. I to don8217t want to name names just yet but i will if this is an ongoing thing. Looking fore to chatting. I got my money back. All of it. But the experience was harrowing. i request a withdraw of 250 usd and i an waiting withdraw since week ago8230. When i to receive i will publich here8230. I started with Opteck with the recommended 1000 but then the account manager they gave me did nothing but hassle me to increase my account to 2500. I got very little investing advice of any use so decided to withdraw my funds and start up with another binary options broker. Once I made the withdrawal request, they said my paperwork was not in order and the name on my credit card didn8217t match my paperwork. Once I resent the information, I had an email stating all was approved pending the account managers approval. Eventually he gave his approval and it8217s over 3 weeks and still no refund despite several emails to both the account manager and their billing department and many live chat sessions where I8217m told it8217s been handed to their management. Sent yet another email this morning and got the usual 24 8211 48 hours for a reply. Their web site says 3 to 4 days for withdrawal approval then several more to go back into my account. This is now going on for 4 weeks so at present, until my money is given back to me i just signed up with Opteck and deposited the minimum amount which is 250 dollars after i made the deposit i tried to access the demo but all that came up was a paragraph explaining what is was for but there was no demo account to be found, after i tried that a few times i got fed-up and went straight for the trading platform but nope not allowed in there either so I8217m kind of scared i just ditched 250 dollars for nothing and a little bit frustrated does anyone out there have any idea how to get around this issue I8217m very upset at how Opteck chooses to conduct business, I gave trading a go a few months back. I went ahead and deposited 2500, and given the 30 day demo to see if I really wanted to move forward. Seeing the withdrawal terms being pretty straight forward. So after the 30 day trial I decided its not for me. I then sent in all the information and everything needed to withdraw8230I received a couple phone calls from Don KingslyAccount Manager Don. KingslyOpteck and his many attempts of trying to keep my money resulted with me agreeing to my 2000 back into my bank account immediately and him working hard to make my 500 8220work for me. Now he has completely fallen off the grid. Ignoring my emails and nothing8230 nothing at all. I8217m completely frustrated and need my money back asap. Registered on their website just a few minutes ago but have yet to open an account. Within a few minutes of registering (definitely less than 5mins), got a call from one of their broker in Europe stating that he will help me with the process. Initially, he asked which account I wanted to open, and I briefly mentioned most likely the Green Account. He next wanted me to give my credit card details over the phone to 8216help8217 me open an account (I find this very odd. All banks and brokerages don8217t do this unless you specifically ask them to). I refuse. I said I will open one through their website. Next was the sale pitch. He became very persistent in wanting me to open an account there and then and will guide me through with opening one within their website (I am not stupid or IT illiterate as to not know how to do it myself. WTF). I refuse stating that at present, I will open an account when I am ready and have researched more about binary options. Next, to persuade me further, he tried to tell me that today they have a 8220special8221 offer that even if I open the Green Account, I will get a demo account, 50 welcome bonus, intro by account manager and Webinar (basically the Silver Account). Again I refuse, stating the same reasons above and mentioned that I would like to do it at my own terms, not at present when you are being quite persistent. He next started to raise his voice stating that I am being very arrogant for not wanting any help. He goes on to say that I am a professional and I am here to help you make money so why are you being so arrogant. He then stated, what do I get to lose given that he is offering you all the above and literally forcing me to give a reason. From there I stopped being polite and said that he is being quite annoying and I asked him why does he want me to open the account so bad today. I went on to say that him being very persistent to the point of being very annoying is the reason why I am not going to open an account at the present time. The conversation ended there. I then went on to Google and found this site. To tell you the truth, I am not quite sure whether this a scam or not but sounds like it. I am not stupid enough to fall for all those tricks. Definitely will not put my money in with Opteck and cancel my registration tomorrow Jack. Your story is copy paste of my story. I have been trading with Opteck for over 8 months and have had an absolutely outstanding experience with them. My broker is professional, accomodating, excellent at trading, teaching and just so helpful in general. Every company has good and not so good points, but I have found nothing wrong with Opteck at all and to all those who complain about withdrawing money8230 I can8217t imagine it is true because I had no issue, in fact they follow protocol precisely with requests for documentation but that is for the client8217s protection. Regarding bonuses and having to trade a certain amount, they just want to be sure that you actually trade8230 so you move volume and of course, profit That is what you sign up for right It is all upfront and explained beforehand, so only those who don8217t listen may have problems come up8230 for the rest of us 8211 a fantastic company with an amazing opportunity. i opened account at opteck and put 7k in there after i planed to withdraw money then they started to call me everytime i logged in. i was so naive and believed case manager and followed their instruction about to blow all of them in 4 bids none of them come to close. I can not log in at opteck did something happen Hi I tried trading with Opteck for a couple of months and found out that it wasn8217t for me. Once I realized that I tried to get my money back. I have been trying for almost 3 months now with out success to get my funds returned to me. I have no idea what to do once they decide to ignore your request. I guess I just got scammed and my money is lost to me. Its too bad really all I have read is that they will return your funds just not in my case I guess. I live in South Africa and I have been scamed American companies many times. Is this one real im new to binary i would like to get into trading. im a computer tech and very buss minded. the more bloggs i see on this site about binary brokers the more skeptical i get about investing. i would like to find a good broker site to invest in without getting screwed,.i live in victoria bc canada. any feedback on where to start please email me at wallibeelive. ca thanks guys for the alls information about opteck. im new too n just lost us300 from my actual deposit us500.a few days past i just won us 160 and now blc of my acc us240.i recive terms n licence agreement from opteck to signup via email. i just have no idea what is going to be happen and what i want to say i will loose blc of my acc to be zero. if you give your CC number and so on they will straight charge away your value money. just more be carefull. Charles Mac intyre My experience with OpTeck is not good. In 60 seconds they took 7000Canadian and in another minute they lost 12 of that. After 5 months I still can8217t withdraw my balance. More red tape more excuses and still being pestered to trade. Why to to lose what balance I have left Their algorim makes money only for them. If you still want to trade then don8217t use your credit cards. They8217ll max out your cards as they did mine. I had a guy call me the same day I registered on the website. It was so funny, I couldn8217t stop laughing. He was so mad cause I would not move forward with the investment and finally he said 8220ok then I8217ll just cancel your registration8221. People keep working hard. Save your money and if you want to invest keep searching until you have found the real thing. Before I leave I want to thank everybody that wrote about their experience here. Without knowing it maybe, you8217re saving people like me from making HUGE mistakes. I have been contacted by Opteck and actually opened an account with them. However, because of a problem with my debit card, I haven8217t funded my account. Which is fortunate for me based on the reviews that I have been reading. One thing that puzzles me though is the fact that no-one has commented on the advanced feature called 8216Bollinger Bands8221. The demo showed that with the use of Bollinger bands there is an 80 chance that one would 8220win 8221 on the total number of trades. How come no-one is talking about these Bollinger bands Are they for real Or is that part of the scam I would really appreciate knowing. Regarding Bollinger Bands. they are a very common market chart indication and are semi-useful. If you want to find out more, just Google them. Or go to Stockcharts and check them out. You can open a free basic chart situation with Stockcharts. I have been involed with option trading for many years, and there is one main rule I live by, which is if you deal in the stock market. AND CANNOT MAKE BUYING DECISIONS YOURSELF. chances are you will lose. Here is my scammed experience: At first, I only wanted to only start with a demo to try the whole binary option thing out. They have attempted to call me several times, even through mid night, several times so I finally put 500 in. And then, the account manager insist that I will lose all my balance with this little investment. So she rang me several times to get me to put in more money but it was unsuccessful. And then, the head account manager David Powell finally insist that he will get an analyst to work with me one-on-one and said that how lucky I was to get to talk to him as he only deals with 100,000 accounts so told me how successful they were. So I made the worst decision of putting in another 9000. Here are the stages of scamming: 1. At first, they seem to be helping me a lot by inviting me to the webinars and make a little bit of money.(All those who went to the webinars are new account holders. Little do they know that they will lose all their balance when they attempt to withdraw. 2. Analysts and account managers taught me how to trade and trade along with me. Trade some on my own and make some money. 3. My account was up to 12000 and so I Made about 3000 and try to withdraw my profit to pay my credit card bills. 4. Withdrawal Request is always cancelled or neglected for 2 weeks. Or I was persuaded by an analyst to not to withdraw. 5. On the 3rd time I contacted customer service for a withdrawal, the senior analyst Bic rang me to trade with him. He worked out a plan so I will lose all my balances with 6 trades. And insist that I should trust his professionalism so I won8217t regret. After this session with him, my balances is down to zero. During the session, he is very careful in doing this. He made sure I did it on the demo account and then made sure I took the losing trades so he is not liable for the loses. Now, there is no money to withdraw. 6. I have attempted to reach Bic who taught me to trade the 6 losing trades with all of my balances and the account manager who made all the promises. And of course, they have vanished. 7. And now, after all is lost, I got another phone call from another account manager( why not the same one) to invest more to recover my lost. Of course I refused and I8217m Still getting phone calls now to top up the balances so I can trade once again to recover all my lost. Can you believe it, they still want to scam for more money And they are legalised Note: The last six one-touch option trades are with a senior analyst. I am a newbie, I would never do those one touch trade without guidance. If he is an analyst, he can predict the losing trades. Option Type Asset Trade Action Status Investment Payout Closing Strike Trade Time (GMT) Expiry (GMT) Trade Action ID One Touch OIL 48.82 Closed 2,077.00 0.00 49.46 23072015 13:33:16 23072015 14:00:00 27981120 One Touch GOLD 1092.89 Closed 2,077.00 0.00 1097.81 23072015 13:31:07 23072015 14:00:00 27981006 One Touch GBPAUD 2.11461 Closed 2,077.00 0.00 2.11158 23072015 13:29:06 23072015 14:00:00 27980751 One Touch GBPJPY 193.397 Closed 2,077.00 0.00 192.938 23072015 13:28:22 23072015 14:00:00 27980673 One Touch USDJPY 124.548 Closed 2,077.00 0.00 123.919 23072015 13:26:26 23072015 14:00:00 27980460 One Touch EURUSD 1.09402 Closed 2,077.00 0.00 1.09868 23072015 13:25:46 23072015 14:00:00 27980391 HighLow GBPUSD 1.56252 Closed 4,400.00 7,744.00 1.56056 22072015 13:43:03 22072015 20:00:00 27881448 Quick options EURUSD 1.08988 Closed 1,600.00 0.00 1.08978 22072015 13:37:08 22072015 13:38:08 27880893 Quick options EURUSD 1.08998 Closed 600.00 0.00 1.08990 22072015 13:36:11 22072015 13:37:11 27880794 Quick options EURUSD 1.09024 Closed 200.00 0.00 1.08997 22072015 13:35:25 22072015 13:36:25 27880710 Quick options EURUSD 1.09040 Closed 100.00 0.00 1.09010 22072015 13:35:03 22072015 13:36:03 27880656 Quick options EURUSD 1.09076 Closed 100.00 165.00 1.09058 22072015 13:33:03 22072015 13:34:03 27880458 And I could say is they are one big scam with a beautiful platform. Be careful and Stay clear of them. Email me at sisterkohkyahoo. hk if you want to know more and be a witness of their doings Now for Gods sake why optec ack like this. i trusted the despite all the bad reviews i had read. i had friends who i had even convinced to were ready to join with me, so i decided to check and see if really what i read about opteck is true so after athousand calls from them i decided before i put my friends in this let me test these brokers so i asked them the minimum amount that you have to begin with they told me 250 dollar. i opened a new account here since i never wanted to give them my main a ccounts so i i kept tossing them around till wen i got the visa card and i decided to give in the visa card number. my acc manager the one who had been calling me from optec told me a senior manager would call me on thirsday that was a day before yesterday. so i later before this call wrote to them and informed them i cant do the trade and i want that opteck account to be suspended and my money sent back to me, gues what. no one has contacted me after that not even a call or mail. on chat some lone called phibi showed up but she makes you look a fool8230. I Open a account with OPTECK WITH POWER BOOSTER Affiliate and Strangly the market was OPEN ON SUNDAY, I Think it was Fake no matter what I do I lose my money They are a BUNCH OF THIEF DON8217T DEPOSIT THERE THEY WILL TAKE ALL YOUR MONEY. I try to fill a complain but nothing work, I ask them to give me some free trade so I can maybe get some of my find back they denied it AVOID THEM AT ALL COST THIEF Hi guys, i8217m Rob. I8217m a newbie, please tell me if this opteck work or not Do i have to be professional to use it Thanks Optecks recruiters are are slick and convincing. Unfortunately what they portray and promise is way short of the truth. When in deparation you attempt to withdraw your funds the game really begins. E mails are ignored and requests to resubmit documents are endless. Eventually when they run out of reasons for resubmission they inform you that the money has been paid but refuse documentary proof of this. I am still waiting for this refund. I would advise prospective traders to avoid Opteck like the plaguage. Please save yourself a lot of grief and DO NOT USE THIS COMPANY. They have a very slick website but persistent hustlers on the phone. Beware of the names and titles they give, Im not at all sure any of them are genuine. I deposited 250, the minimum, in order to access the demo account and webinars to learn about binary options before actually trading. I had a friendly Senior Manager who in the first phone call pressurised me to up my deposit in order to help her produce a flexible strategy for my trading account. She didnt ask for 2,500 but kept using that figure as an example, and did agree when I asked her outright if she was asking me to deposit more money. She did say shed call back to give an online tutorial which she made out was a favour (as a senior manager wouldnt be doing that with the lowest (green) level of investment). To be fair, when she did call back she accepted I wasnt at that time going to increase my deposit and did spend a good 45 minutes on the tutorial and it was useful. She made the point shed given me a lot of money in my demo account, 10,000, to play with. I later on made a couple of trades with this (and lost) and decided Id use it at the weekend, not realising trading wasnt available at the weekend and that the demo account had a time limit on it. I decided to use it on its last day but it wasnt available. In the meantime Id worked my way through their online tutorials and others shed emailed me, but by that time became convinced this whole thing wasnt for me. I couldnt find the online form to request a withdrawal of funds so called, and had confirmation they had my details for a refund to be made, less 30, but this would need to be agreed by my manager. When she called she kept saying she couldnt understand why I wanted to withdraw without any trading and not even try to win back the 30 admin fee they were going to charge on the refund. Eventually she accepted the fact Id changed my mind but then put me through to her manager, who again wanted to understand why I was withdrawing. After clearly stating my case a few times he put me back through to my manager who agreed the refund. That should have been the end of the matter but since then Ive had a series of calls from men wanting to know why Ive withdrawn I soon had a missed call from them, apparently from my manager. I called back to explain I was at that moment going away on holiday. I had another missed call some hours later. Then two days later I had another call from a man wanting to understand I made it clear I wanted no more calls. Five hours later I had another from another man, and after a row with this one (during which I was told there was no need for me to be rude and I told him his company was completely unprofessional) Zack Varier shouted you can have your money. Sure enough this did come through a few days later, but I had another call that weekend from another man, plus another one last week from another one (this time from an unknown number). Ive told each one of them if they want to know they should speak to my account manager, that I want no more calls, its none of their business etc, but last Friday just to shut them up told them I had simply changed my mind. Then today I got a call from Roy Neeson. He put the phone down on me before I could get details of his surname I had to call back. Ive today spoken to Lorna Tawud who has been told Id go online to report what I see as harassment with their persistent calls and that Ill get their company investigated if they call me again. When they call, they are all Account Managers, Senior Account Managers, Head of Accounts, Head of Technical Analysis etc etc, Im sure they make up whatever title comes into their heads. They are rude if you play them at their own game and ask why theyre calling and stop their spiel. While waiting for my refund I spoke to a friends partner who teaches fast-track courses to people going into banking and trading. He said Id escaped with a very cheap lesson learned, and that Opteck shouldnt even be retailing it to people like me, novices. Also as the company is regulated in Cyprus you have no rights in the UK. Yes, there is big money to be made but also huge losses. I would say from my own personal experience this game is not for people like me, novices looking for a second income. But if you do try binary options I suggest you dont consider his company. but can you really earn a lot of money here on opteck that is my question. Opteck analysts are very deceiving, they entice you with great results during group webinar but when you trade one on one they purposely make you lose money and call you with a new strategy so you can deposit more. They do everything they can so you don8217t withdraw. Typical pump and dump shop, do not trust them for advice they have alterior motives. Do your own research and learn the indicators or they will help you lose your money and have the audacity to ask for more. I recently finished up with Opteck. I firstly deposited 2oooUSD and became a silver account holder and was appointed an account manager. The account manager was friendly and gave me knowledge and access to charts and information found on the internet. I was contacted at least twice a week and progressed in understanding the trade platform though i was not confident or convinced that I would make profits from what I was taught. I did some live trading after some time using the indicators as instructed from my account manager and although did make profit at times, more often then less I would gain only loss and lose any confidence I had gained. So having a small capital and understanding the risk I was hesitant to keep trading and more wanting to withdraw and prevent further losses. Several times I hit this level where I would, after some profit gain, suffer a loss and feel the smart option to withdraw balance and cut losses. Upon withdrawing funds, to finalize the transfer back to the account holder, heshe needs to verbally confirm this with the account manager. This is apparently for security reasons so that the account holder is surely the one that is making the withdrawal but on every occasion where i would try to withdrawal and be contacted by my account manager I would be convinced to stay and keep trading. They are very good at this and do it every day, they do not want you to take your money out and would rather see it lost in making them more future profits. I was soon later transferred to a new account manager without question i had some new guy talking to me like he knew me and respected me and raved on about getting rich and making hudge profits. I only wanted knowledge and information to help me trade successfully, not some doof that seemed like a life insurance salesperson. I narrowed his 20 minute call to me down to a few sentences and repeated it back to him and he shut up and had nothing more to say except that It would be very wise to deposit more money for a larger capital as soon there will be a huge profit opertunity. I denied that request and explained that when i saw results I will follow requests as such. With my remaining balance at his disposal he convinced me to make two investments that would in turn be unsuccessful and blow my account. Upon this closure he was to contact me back for further instruction. I have had no further contact from Opteck since having no balance to further trade with. Like many before me and many yet to fall into this habit of trading Opteck only want your money sitting in their accounts. I watched a webinar of the CEO of Opteck, who claims to always make a profit, doing 60 second trading and within fifty minutes had reduced his balance by 30 000. If one with a capital of 40 000 was to follow that webinar there would not be much chance of coming back up using opteck platform from that point onward. One can make fast amounts of money but be mindful that is possible to lose it all just as fast. My advice, avoid getting involved with Opteck, you will be left broke and angry. Im submitting this as a complaint towards the bad experience Ive encountered with Opteck I did send this same email to their complaints service (which I doubt will even do anything) First of all, why am I required to deposit a minimum amount of 250 if the account manager doesnt even want to trade with me with that amount. I was forced to have no less than 2500 in my account to have the account manager work with me. After I was told to have at least 2500 at which point I had deposited some more funds totaling 1500 in my account I was promised some one-on-one sessions. This was never honored. I was left on my own for over 2 weeks with not one notification how to proceed. After I started my process for withdrawal of my funds I was contacted by Jack from Opteck, explaining he is a company trader for Opteck and saw my request to withdraw my funds. He then said his job was to see how he can help traders like me to get a big portion of the funds back that I have lost and to let me stay interested in the business. He then told me he was going to guide me to trade 6 big trades with the remaining funds I had, just to gain what I had lost. He LOST ALL but 1 trade, leaving me with almost nothing in my account to withdraw. I now feel very agitated since new traders are promised to be helped on the way to be successful in trading, and NOT that we are required to start with 5000 and 10000 accounts. Every time I chat through their customer service chat link Im being told that my account manager will be notified and I will be contacted. It never happened.. It feels like I was purposely misguided in trading my last funds just so I cant withdraw anything. I do facing the same problem with you. I have tried several times to apply for withdrawal and do all rejected by their ridiculous reasons. The last withdraw request submitted yesterday, their account manager name 8220David Thompson8221 called me up and wanted to assist me on my withdraw status. In the conversations he keep argue and contention with me he not understand why I wanted to withdraw. He wanted push me to have last trade with him, I am not that STUPID. I could not believe that he will gain money with me but he will trying to make me lost the money until nothing can be withdraw. So I8217m keep reply to him 8221 I WANTED TO WITHDRAW, THIS IS MY LAST DECISION8221. He replied 8220No..He have the right to decide what to do on my money8221. I really get awe, that is my money, I can8217t withdraw without his permission. The worst part was the guy hang off the phone8230just imagine how professional their are. I think Iam not the only victim in Opteck. If anyone is looking for online binary trading strongly not recommended OPTECK. Sounds very wolf of wall street if ye ask me me Opteck is the worst decision I have ever made I had hopes of making a bit of money on the side of my current job. The Specialist that helped me make my first few trades caused me to loose 700, after that I tried to take my money out over 30 times and they kept calling me saying that I have regain my money back before withdrawing my funds. They Would Not let me take my funds out, I spent months trying to Finally I gave in to talking to some Specialist Named Dan Miller who caused me to trade my entire finds and Lost Everything 6000 dollars gone down the drain The employees who talked to me were name Chloe Peterson, David Thompson, Some lady named Sarah, and some guy named Bill. DO NOT JOIN OPTECK, they are pros at getting you to invest so they can make commissions off your Profit and Loss I really wish I had NEVER gotten involved with this company I8217m So Ashamed that I even let this happen to me I told the acc manager LIAM BITTAN that I need to withdraw my money although I have loss a few hundreds but I don8217t mind but he con me into continue trading and told me he can help me gained back my initial deposit (U4900) but I loss all in the end. I even recorded the calls to proof that I8217m not lying. Had filed a complaint to Cyprus security. Why are they even regulated and still exists. I have emailed Opteck to withdraw my money amp close my account with them. I have received no response instead I noticed that they took some money off my account. I have been dealing with Kristy Clark. I have emailed both her and their support department. I did tell Kristy that I was not happy with they way they operate, so she was aware I was planning to close the account. I had never received the bonus that I was promised when I initially opened my account with them. They make empty promises. Opteck is a gambling site, not a trading site. They profile you to determine how much money they can squeeze out of you. They will go after your savings and push to have you take loans in order to provide your account with 8220flexibility8221. They will offer 8220risk free trades8221, guaranteed investments and demonstrate amazing results (only with their help on limited occasions) These are designed to dupe you in to 8220investing8221 as much as possible. From the first contact, there8217s always very high pressure to increase your investment. It is gambling, and the house always wins. Losses are huge and winnings relatively small. They are only interested in you if they think you8217ll invest more. Their webinars and one on one sessions are designed to empty your account. They make money when you lose money. Once they8217ve got as much a they can get out of you, they don8217t respond to emails and miss appointments they lie about the promises made to secure further investments. This company has no integrity. Do not trust anything the account manager or anyone else says or does. Their Chief Analysts are frauds who are incapable of making money using their own system. The positive reviews you see are likely paid Opteck promoters, even their 8220experts8221 are incapable of making money using their system. They are however, very good at making excuses and creating deceptions. I am writing this message to warn people about Opteck. Yes some people will swear that Opteck does everything it says, BUT the word swear can also be used in another way. Yes I mean I was sworn at while I was with my trading manager. Being new to binary options and to Opteck I thought it was a little disrespectful, BUT it got worse. I do not want to mention what he said but it was really degrading, and then he goes and loses my first ever trade. Yes I lost my money because I was silly, inexperienced, felt left alone so I decided to unsubscribe from Opteck. I was given a demo account and all the tools, videos, etc to use but one can only go so far. Yes my trading manager tried to help explain how it worked but it can be quite complicated. Its not that I8217m complaining about their platform and learning tools they give you, its how I was treated, disrespected and degraded by some one who doesn8217t even no me. What a bad experience This broker is simple a circus, a clown show I first invested 10,000 with them, they made me all kinds of nice promises, i just could8217t lose my money. After just 2 weeks, I had lost 20 of my investment. I asked help to my account manager, she wanted me to invest another 5000, which i refused, she never called me again. The analyst they assigned to me was a coke addict, and in a single session with him I lost 5000. I complained since the very beginning, they never delivered the promised services, my account manager called me 3 times only and the last time was to ask me another 5000. After a few weeks I asked her to call me, she never did, I heard that she was on a sick leave8230 The analyst who made me lose 5000 on one asset never called me again, i was supposed to have 3 sessionweek with him, we only had 3 sessions, and in the last one he made me lose 5000. After many complaints without answers, some one from their recovery department called me, i gave him a bunch of sht, But he seemed to be a good guy and really seemed to want to help, so he made me invest another 500, with a promise that I would have risk free trades, bla bla bla8230 He made me lose that 500 what was left of my first investment within 2 days, and right after the last trade, when all my money was gone, he hung up on me8230 Now i8217m dealing with another person at the recovery department who tells me I8217ll need to invest another 5000. They will not reimbourse any money, that8217s all they can do8230. This broker is a definite joke. CROOKS, LIERS, BULLSHITERs, that8217s my experience with OPTECK Update on my OPTECK experience Right after reading the horrifying stories on this site and others about Opteck, I wrote the above story and sent Opteck the following message: 8220Hi guys I just read a lot of interesting reviews on Internet about OPTECK I now know who I8217m dealing with Please take note that if you don8217t take any actions and reimbourse my complete investment of 10,500 US in the next 5 days, an action will be taken by Master Card and you will be notified as a FRAUD company, and Master Card will reimbourse me and take actions against your company. I will also take actions and will complain to CySEC in Cyprus about your fraudulent services. Please call back ASAP and make sure you don8217t even try to bullshit me again8221 No later than this morning, I went back to their platform, and at my total surprise, my account balance was at 10,022. I tried to withdraw it but they needed more info for my credit card. I asked them to call me, they did within 5 minutes, talked to a lady at billing department, she was very polite but the conversation was very straight to the point, I told her I was still missing money in my account as my full investment was of 10,500. they corrected it immediately, so my new account balance is at 10,500 OUF. now the last thing is to withdraw and get it back on my credit card. Waiting for them to confirm my documents verification, then I should be able to withdraw my full 10500. I8217ll come to update Complain to CySec, and your credit card company Please be noted that all information provided by Binary Options that Suck are based on our experience and do not mean to offend or accuse any broker with illegal matters. Die Worte Suck, Scam, etc. basieren auf der Tatsache, dass diese Artikel in einer satirischen und übertriebenen Form geschrieben und daher manchmal von der Realität getrennt sind. 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